Notes
Not everyone has what it takes to run a business, and Eric says so up front. Recorded on his last weekday in a Belfast coworking space, this episode is for the owner who has worked hard for a couple of years, can’t make it work, and can’t say why. His line is simple: either learn what you’re doing wrong and fix it, or get out.
Eric names six signs and gets specific on each. Lack of self-discipline looks like buying a second course before finishing the first, or redesigning your website instead of winning a sale. Avoidance of risk is refusing to let one or two people go and driving the whole bus off the cliff instead. Resistance to learning is mistaking consuming content for learning, and Eric traces part of that back to a school system shaped by employers to produce people who wait to be trained. He also covers the humility to adapt (including a break room conversation that taught him something he almost dismissed), the financial team he built around his own weakness with money (a financial planner, a tax accountant, a monthly bookkeeper, a business banker, and his wife), and why community is the only real defense against rejection.
The leadership tip of the week is one of Eric’s favorite axioms: culture trumps vision. Even a company of one has a culture, built by the language you repeat and the way you do things, and it will decide whether the vision ever happens.
Key Highlights
- Systems fix a lack of self-discipline, but only when the system includes someone else holding you accountable.
- Consuming content is not learning, because learning means studying, asking why, and wrestling with how it applies to your business.
- Hold on to an idea because the idea is that good, not because you think you’re that good.
- Bad things grow in the dark, so keep a light on the money with more than one person who sees the numbers.
- Culture trumps vision, even when your company is a team of one.
Key Takeaways
Here we go. In this episode, you’re going to discover the top six telltale signs that you don’t have what it takes to be a business owner, and that it’s time to just give up on the dream and keep on it, or go get a job. And I’m just going to warn you now, I want to be blunt. So if you’re easily offended, you might want to find another podcast to go listen to before you go. That’s probably the first sign you don’t have what it takes, because weak minded people are easily offended by others, and those people never make it in business.
Welcome to the Digital Nomad Entrepreneur podcast, a show to help people start, lead and scale a location independent business, giving them the freedom to work from anywhere in the world. I’m your host, Eric Dingler. I’m a full time traveling digital nomad along with my wife and our four teens. And I just want to say thank you very much for listening to my podcast today. This is our last weekday in Belfast, Northern Ireland, before we head over to Liverpool. And so I’m closing things out of my co-working space here, recording this episode for you.
Now real quickly, I’ve got three parts of an outline for today’s podcast. Number one, we’re going to cover today’s content. All right, these are going to be the top signs, again, that you’re not cut out to make it in business. Number two, second thing up here is a leadership tip of the week. Number three, I’m going to give a quick travel update, because not everybody really cares a whole lot about that side of our lifestyle, I don’t believe, to warrant sharing it on the podcast. But for those of you that don’t care about that, and you’re just like, I can’t stand it when a podcast takes forever to get into the meat and potatoes of things, well, I’m going to save all of that to the end, and I’m going to get into the meat and potatoes.
In fact, let’s just go ahead and get ready to jump into today’s content, the six signs that you don’t have what it takes to be in business. And here’s the thing. Not everybody has what it takes to be in business. Okay, I’m just going to start out by saying that not everybody has what it takes. And I’m sorry if somebody has lied to you, or misled you, or somehow helped you be delusional in thinking that you have what it takes to be a business owner. Maybe you don’t. Maybe you don’t. We have four kids, and I’m telling you right now, out of our four kids, one of them has what it takes. Maybe two. But, you know, it’s just, this isn’t for everybody. And that’s okay. It’s okay that this may not be for you. And that doesn’t mean you can’t be a digital nomad, doesn’t mean you can’t be location independent. It just means you’re going to have to get a remote job versus giving other people remote jobs, versus having a business that gives other people work.
So what I want to do is unpack these six things. I’m just real quickly going to read down through the six, and then I’m going to go back and revisit each of them. And when I revisit them, I do want to share with you some advice. Maybe you only struggle with one of these things, and you’re like, what the heck, but I want to overcome it, because maybe you’re dogged enough that you’re just like, I don’t care what it takes, I’m going to be an overcomer, I’m going to overcome the obstacle my way, because I’m going to make this work. Well, if you have that perseverance attitude, well, then that’s a good sign. That doesn’t mean you have what it takes, but it is a good sign. But like I said at the very beginning, if you are weak minded, if you are easily offended by people, then to be honest, you just go somewhere else. This isn’t going to be for you, all right? You’re not going to make it. You’re not going to be happy. Your clients aren’t going to be happy. Your team isn’t going to be happy. Why create misery in the world? So just have a job. Pick a job that you love and go get a job and work for them.
All right, so what are the six things? Again, I want to read these with no extra context, which is challenging for me. I’m going to give you the six, and then I’m going to come back to the top. Number one, lack of self-discipline. Number two, avoidance of risk. Number three, resistance to learning. Number four, resistance to adaptation. Number five, poor money management. Number six, fear of rejection or failure.
So let’s go back up to the top and let’s walk down through these. And again, I do want to give you some hope. I’m not all doom and gloom. I believe people can overcome obstacles. I’ve overcome some of these. Okay, I have some of these, and I’ll share which one I struggle with the most. But I have enough perseverance and enough doggedness, enough go-get-them attitude, that I decided I wasn’t going to let this thing keep me from my dream. Now, sometimes for some of us, they should. They just should. And only you can decide that. But I’ll be blunt with you. I’m going to be your friend. And maybe you’ve been trying to get a business off the ground. Maybe you’ve been working really hard the last couple of years, and you just can’t seem to make it work for you. You know what? Either you learn what you’re doing wrong and fix it, or get out. It’s that simple, okay? And if you don’t know what the problem is, that’s a problem. You really should be able to know what the problem is, especially if you’ve been doing this for a couple of years. So you’ve got to be honest with yourself. Now, if you’re struggling but you’re willing to learn and you’re willing to do so, you could be in great shape. So let’s go through these one by one.
Number one, lack of self-discipline. This is one of the things I see people struggle with all the time. And here’s how you know if you lack self-discipline. You’ll buy a course or sign up for a program, and before you’ve completed it 100%, you’ve signed up for another course or another program. You follow multiple different, quote unquote, gurus, and not just follow them, but you try to embrace what they say, you try to implement what they say. That’s lack of self-discipline. You procrastinate on the things that have to be done to work on the things you enjoy working on. Lack of self-discipline. When things aren’t going so easy, you’ll come up with a way to add a new product, a new service, a new marketing angle. Instead of going out and pounding the pavement and making connections and creating opportunities and winning a sale, you’re sitting at your desk redesigning your website. These are signs of lack of self-discipline, and they can all be fixed if you systematize for success. Systems is one of the greatest ways I’ve overcome some of my challenges with self-discipline. Now, this is not my biggest area, but this is an area I struggle with, without a doubt. I’m attracted to the new shiny object, probably worse than, if not just as much as, anybody else. I struggle with self-discipline. But systems fix this. Systems fix this. And you could do the same thing. And systems for me, my systems have to include accountability. If my systems don’t have accountability, somebody else in it helping me, then forget it, it doesn’t work. But if you’re not willing to admit that you lack self-discipline, and you’re not willing to put systems and boundaries in place, you’re not willing to work through that, you’re not going to make it in business. So just quit now.
Number two, avoidance of risk. If you’re afraid of making big decisions, if the idea of, let’s say you’re running your business and things get a little tight, somebody’s got to be let go, you’ve got to terminate some staff, you’ve got to lay some people off because the money’s too tight, well, if that idea is something you can’t do, I’m not saying you’re going to enjoy it, I’m not saying it shouldn’t bother you, it will bother you. But if you’re like, absolutely sure, you’re never going to make that decision, if you’re going to drive the bus off the cliff and take everybody down versus just opening the door and letting one or two people go, well, if you’re avoidant of that, if you’re risk avoidant, if you’re not willing to try something new, if you’re not willing to make the hard decision, then you’re not going to make it here. You have to be willing to make the hard choices. I’m not saying you have to enjoy it, I’m just saying you’ve got to be willing to make hard decisions. You’ve got to be willing to take on some risk management. But here’s the thing about risk. Have you ever known anybody that’s gotten fired from their nine to five job? I know people. I’ve been fired. And so I don’t think you’re any more safe in a nine to five job than starting your own business. Less so, in my opinion, but that’s just my opinion. And so risk is going to be how you decide to define it, and you get to define the risk. That’s the crazy thing about it. But risk can be minimized. There’s lots of things you can do to minimize risk. But if risk makes you uncomfortable, if you’re just going to avoid making hard decisions, if you’re going to avoid risky scenarios, then this isn’t right for you.
Number three, resistance to learning. Now, here’s the thing, I struggled with this one a lot. Going back to lack of self-discipline, I actually know a lot of business owners, solopreneurs, that overwhelm themselves with learning. They’re constantly learning, they’re reading new books, listening to podcasts, listening to this guru and that guru, and they’re trying this thing and that thing. And they never slow down enough to apply what they learned. And not only that, they’re looking for the one magic bullet, that one magic course that’s going to make all their business work. Look at me now, learning. There’s a difference here. Here’s what I’ve written down on my notes. There’s a difference between being handed an answer and learning. If you just want to have the answer handed to you, that’s not learning, that’s wanting somebody to do it for you. You have to be willing to actually learn. And learning requires studying. Learning requires going over the same content more than once. Learning means asking questions about, what is this, what does this look like if I apply it, is this really worth applying to my life? So there’s a difference between learning and what a lot of people define as learning, which is consuming content. Oh, I read this book, I signed up, I took this course, and they think that’s learning. That’s not learning, that’s resistance to learning. Learning takes work and effort. You’ve got to put in the time, you’ve got to study, you’ve got to wrestle with it, you’ve got to ask some questions, you’ve got to come at it from different angles, you’ve got to do some research with it. You can’t be resistant if you just want to be informed. If you just want to be trained on how to do it, then you want a job. That’s what happens with employees, we train them, they don’t have to learn, they just have to be trained. Push this button, get this output.
And a lot of people are comfortable with that, and if I’m honest, the reason people are like this, well, if you look at the way the public education system, especially in the United States, was assembled, was put together, the people that really influenced the public education system were the employers. And they wanted an education system, a funnel, if you will, a pipeline, that taught people how to be good employees. They wanted people to learn how to work, to be told, to be disciplined, to show up, to do the things, to be able to manage themselves well enough to work for a long time. This was the major influence in the earliest part of public education. And so you have probably been trained to think that learning is being trained, and that’s not it. Learning means going out and being inquisitive and asking questions and wrestling with things. Some of us have learned to do that. Others haven’t. But if you are resistant to learning, if you just want to be told, push this button, run this ad on this day, at this time, use this creative, set the settings to this, do this and you’ll get leads, if that’s what you want, you don’t have what it takes to be a business owner. Stop right now and go get a job. But if you’re willing to say, no, I’m going to learn how to run ads, here’s the thing, you can have somebody tell you, run this ad on this day. But if you’re not sitting there going, why, why on that day, why is that setting that way, well, just because I’ve seen these courses, just check this box, why, what happens if I don’t check that box, I don’t know, we just check the box. That’s not learning. I want to learn, because the moment something breaks, if I don’t know why it’s working, I don’t know how to fix it. So if you’re resistant to learning, get up, you don’t have what it takes.
Number four, resistance to adaptation. Listen, you’ve got to be humble. All right, you’ve got to be humble. There are so many things I thought I knew how to do that were just wrong. They don’t work in business. And I’ve had to learn to say, wait a second, this is not working. This grand idea, this plan, this thing that I thought was going to revolutionize X, Y, Z, it’s a dud, it’s not working, it’s no good. I have had to learn to adapt. Is it my biggest issue? I’m just going to tell you right now, out of all the ones we’ve talked about, I struggled with self-discipline, I’ve had to learn to systematize for success. Avoidance of risk, never had a problem with that. I’m not afraid of hard decisions, but I’ve had to be reminded other people have feelings, so that’s never really been a thing for me. Resistance to learning, I used to struggle with that. That was the thing for me. I did want to learn, I just wanted the easy answer, and things were really hard until I decided to grow up and be a learner. And then things changed there. And I’m a very prideful S.O.B, okay, I have an ego the size of a jumbo jet, all right, I am a prideful, egotistical goofball, and I have had to force myself to be humble and ask questions and be inquisitive. Because I learned things just this morning in the break room here in the coworking space. I struck up a conversation with a young guy that does the marketing for the coworking space, and there were so many things he was saying right off the bat that I’m like, oh, my gosh, that’s a dumb way to do it. But I just kept asking questions and was inquisitive and had a great conversation with him. And I did learn a couple of things, but I had to remind myself, be humble, just be humble. He’s not asking for your opinion. If he wanted it, he’d ask for it. Right now, just, what can you learn from this guy? What can you learn from his experience in this context of marketing office spaces in Belfast, Ireland? And as I kept digging, kept asking questions, I did start picking up on some things, and it was worth it. You have to be willing to do this yourself. You have to humble yourself and be willing to stop holding on to an idea that you thought was the bee’s knees.
Now, here’s the trick with this, okay? There are some things you’re going to want to hold on to, even when people tell you not to. You’re going to have an idea, you’re going to have something, and you’re going to break some rules. And that’s okay. But I’m just telling you right now, there is a fine line between holding on to an idea because you’re confident in it and you know it’s the right thing, versus holding on to an idea because you think you’re that good. There’s the difference. If you’re holding on to an idea because you think you’re that good, versus you think the idea is that good, that’s a big problem. You have to be willing to adapt. You have to be humble. You have to be willing to have a coach. I’ve always had a coach. I believe in the theory of being a Batman and a Robin. Okay, I think everybody should have a Batman, and everybody should have a Robin. Be learning from someone, be adding value to somebody else. I do this podcast to add value to others. And guess what? I still have my own business coaches. I still have my own podcasts I listen to. And so you have to be willing to adapt, you have to be humble, you have to be willing to have a coach.
All right, so those were the first four. I’ve got two more I want to tackle here. But before I do that, I want to invite you to connect with me on LinkedIn. Go to EricDingler.com, that’s going to forward to my LinkedIn profile. Follow me, send a connection request, drop me a message. I would love to connect with you on LinkedIn. That is a major focus of mine for this year, for 2025, to build up a community on LinkedIn. So I’d love to see you over there. EricDingler.com, let’s connect, let’s add value to each other and see what opportunities present themselves to work together, to support one another, and to introduce each other to other people. So EricDingler.com, follow me, connect with me on LinkedIn.
Number five, poor money management. I’ll be honest, this is my big Achilles heel. I’m terrible at money management. I’m awful at it. I’m really good at setting a budget. I’m horrible at following a budget. I’m just no good at it. I’ve never been good at it. I’ve struggled with it my entire life, in every part of my career and entrepreneurial journey. Money management is really hard for me, and so I’ve had to build a team. I’ve got money-smart people that I’ve given the authority to help hold me accountable with our finances. So if you are no good at money management, you need to either not own a business, or you need to build a team. I’ve got a couple of people on the team that are independent from each other, because they’re so involved with money, I need, I just don’t trust any one person. So I have a financial planner. My wife and I have had the same financial planner for many years. We really like Neil, we trust Neil, he’s great, absolutely amazing. So we have a financial planner. We have a tax accountant that does our business taxes and our personal taxes and the taxes for a nonprofit. We have a CPA that is a bookkeeper that I meet with once a month, she’s a consultant for us and has access to our QuickBooks, and she asks me very pointed, hard questions, and she’s got a lot of authority to manage our money there. I have a relationship with our business banker, I trust Andy at our business bank. And so I have these different people that are all on my financial team that I lean into and get their thoughts and opinions. And then the final member of this team, and the biggest member of this team, is my wife. Bad things grow in the dark, so we have to keep a light on the money. Having her intimately involved with it is really important, because otherwise I’m no good at it. I can’t be, I just am not good at it. But I wasn’t going to let it kill our dream. I wasn’t going to let it hurt us. I was going to get other people involved, and I needed to have a multitude of people involved, because I just want to give the keys to the kingdom to somebody, I’d be setting myself up as an opportunity to have somebody embezzle from me. So that’s why we have multiple people that see all of the numbers. If you’re not willing to be open with your numbers to somebody, if you’re not willing to have a team and get help with money, and money management is a weak point for you, then you have no right to be in business right now. Maybe poor money management is your thing. Well, there’s ways to get around that.
Now, I tell you this, and I just thought of this, this is off the top of my head, it’s not in my notes. One thing I have realized is people that are really, really excellent at money management are really, really terrible at people management. So just be cautious with that. If you’re excellent at money management, that’s great, you’re going to want to pay attention to how you manage people.
Number six, and our final one here, if you have a fear of rejection or failure, get out. Rejection is just part of the game. You’re going to hear a lot of nos. You are going to fail. There have been many things that have been failures that we’ve tried to do in the business. It happens. It happens to every single business. If you’re not failing, then you need to go back up to the fact that maybe you struggle with number two, which is a strong aversion to risk. You are going to fail, okay. And, I know it sounds a little cliche, but we’ve made some of our biggest advancements on the other side of failure. So you can’t be afraid of it. You want to be cautious of it, you want to be aware, you want to be watching for it, you want to minimize the potential as much as possible, but you don’t want to be paralyzed by it. That’s one of the things we do, we shoot a bullet before a cannonball, we test ideas as much as possible. But even then, it doesn’t always work. And so you cannot have a fear of rejection or failure. I’m telling you right now, if you’re afraid of rejection, if you’re afraid of failure, you are never going to make it long term. You’ve got to get out now.
Well, maybe, first of all, the first few people I’ve talked to that bought from me, yeah, they already know me, and they’re not buying from me merely because they need or want my widget or product, but they’re also trying to help me out, and that’s fine, that’s great, celebrate them, thank them for that. But eventually you’re going to get people who don’t know you, they don’t care if they hurt your feelings, they’re going to tell you no. And if you can’t handle it, then, quite frankly, you will not last as a business owner. So what’s the remedy for this? What do you have to do? The only way to fight this, the only way to survive this, is you have to have community. You have to have community of people in your life, people that you trust, people that you can talk to, people you’re going to interact with. This is why masterminds can be so powerful, possibly even your own team, even if it’s just you and your team, having a business coach, you’ve got to have community. You’ve got to have somebody that can walk through these things with you, because they’re going to happen. They’re going to happen. And the people that have community, they’re the ones that survive, they’re the ones that make it through it. I’m not saying it doesn’t hurt, I’m not saying it doesn’t sting. It hurts. It stings. I don’t like being told no, I don’t like it. I don’t like failing. It’s embarrassing sometimes, but I have to keep moving forward. I can’t let it paralyze me at the next decision point. So you need to have community. You need to have community.
Well, before I get into this week’s leadership tip of the week, I want to invite you to schedule a consultation. Now, maybe you’re listening to this podcast and it’s not the first week of a year, that’s probably happening. Right now is still a great time to schedule a consultation, as long as I’m still doing them. The best way to find out is head over to my website, EricDingler.com, and see if the button says schedule consultation. I’m offering complimentary consultations where you can just schedule and we’ll jump on a call. They’re scheduled for 25 minutes, it’s just a 25 minute meeting focused on helping you reach your business growth goals. I’ve got a couple spots available a week, I’ve decided to open these up and make myself available to talk to people, give people insight, help coach people along a little bit. So if you would like to talk about your journey to being the owner or growing your location independent business, maybe you’re already living this lifestyle and you just want to make some tweaks or do a few things to get a little bit more out of your business, schedule a consultation. Maybe you’re thinking about jumping from the nine to five and transitioning into having a location independent business, schedule a consultation. Let’s talk about it.
Now, this week’s leadership tip of the week. If you’re new to the podcast, you might be thinking, why is he giving a leadership tip? Because your leadership capacity is the capacity of your business. It’s just that simple. Become a better leader, become a better business owner. You have to be a better leader to have a better business. And this week, I want to talk about one of my favorite leadership axioms. I was really surprised, I hadn’t talked about it yet. I went back to an Airtable list that I keep, I use Airtable to organize and manage the podcast, and I went back and searched, I have a whole list of every one of the leadership tips, there’s been 37 of them, one of them I repeated once by accident, that was my bad, that happened before I had a list. But I was really surprised, out of the 36 leadership tips, I’ve never shared this one. It’s one of my favorites, and the leadership tip is this: culture trumps vision.
Culture trumps vision. You could have the most clear vision for your company, a picture of a preferred future. You could have crystal clarity on the problem you solve, the person you solve it for, how they buy the product that solves the problem. It’s so clear and so wonderful, the world needs it, it’s going to work. But if you don’t have a company culture, even if you’re a company of one, if you don’t have the right company culture, your vision will never come to fruition. Culture trumps vision. And what made me think of this is I was working on some stuff with our business, evaluating last year and some things for this year, and there were some things I decided to set as a priority for myself, to tweak in our company culture. And so I was thinking about that and working on it, and realized, oh my gosh, I’ve never talked about this on the Digital Nomad Entrepreneur podcast, culture. Because here’s the thing, what makes up culture? Well, one of the biggest carriers and creators of culture is language. You have to have some specific language you’re using with your team, and you have to repeat it. And then you have to have some clear ways that you do things, even if it’s just you. If you have negative self-talk, if you have negative self-doubt, and you’re a team of one, well, that’s creating a culture that’s going to keep you from getting your vision. It connects to the things we’ve talked about. If you lack self-discipline, then you don’t have a culture that has discipline, you don’t have systematized processes to have a culture that’s smooth, enjoyable, exciting. And that’s going to trump your vision. You can’t achieve your vision without having the right culture in place, and culture is going to happen, or it can be created. Never allow the culture to just happen, create the culture you want. And you create it in the way you do the things you do, in the way you say the things you say. So you have to pay attention to this, it’s super, super important. In fact, outside of leadership, the culture you create is probably the next most important thing in your business, because it trumps your vision. If you have a terrible culture, you’re never going to reach the greatest vision. So, culture trumps vision.
All right, before I give this week’s travel update, I thank you so much for listening up to this point, and I would really appreciate it if you could help me out. Leave a review, subscribe, leave a comment if you listen on Spotify. I’d really like to grow the podcast this year, see the podcast reach new ears and new audiences. So I’m committed to working on creating helpful content, and I could use your help by spreading the word about the podcast. So if you found this at all helpful, I would really appreciate a review from you. Make sure you subscribe, share it with someone.
So as far as a travel update and personal update, I’m going to say, getting sick sucks, even more so when you’re traveling on the road. The day after Christmas, our oldest daughter got pretty sick, and by the next day we were all pretty sick. We had some type of flu bug that went through the house. And in addition to that, about a month ago, I pinched a nerve in my neck, and I have been dealing with really severe pain in my right arm that has subsided to now just numbness. The pointer finger on my right hand has been numb for about a week, sometimes it gets tingly and the feeling comes back if I sit right. But for the most part, I’m just walking around with a numb finger. We’ve made some appointments for next week already in Liverpool, to see which one of our boys needs an eye doctor, and I’m going to go to a physio therapist. So just things have to happen, but it’s not an insurmountable issue. My wife’s podcast, the Digital Nomad Family podcast, has talked about medical things on the road and things like that.
So yeah, I’ve got that pinched nerve to deal with. Now, the next episode I record will be from Liverpool, that’s exciting. I was thinking it was going to be this one, I realized I was one off, I think I said the same thing in the last episode, well, if I did, I was wrong then, it’s definitely the next episode. I’m still sitting in Belfast here, looking out the window of my co-working space, seeing the street, the double decker buses, and all the fun stuff. But yeah, we’re headed to Liverpool, so I need to bone up on my Beatles trivia, I don’t know a lot about the Beatles, but I think maybe after the next couple of months I will be.
Now, I’m really curious, and I’d love to hear from you if you can send me an email. I really appreciate when I get emails. One of my regular listeners, Derek, sent me an email after the last episode, I talked about the Enneagram on there, and he sent me some perspective on the Enneagram, and I appreciated that a lot. So yeah, I really do appreciate getting emails and social media DMs and stuff like that, so feel free to do that. But I really do want to know, these travel updates at the end, do you find them at all interesting? Or am I just being egotistical thinking that you’re going to find it interesting? Would you like to have a travel tip? Would you prefer this to be, again, in the episode with the travel update, but also a travel tip? Give us a tip, help us learn to travel a little bit better. I don’t want to dilute the podcast, I’m not trying to be a podcast for everything. The purpose of this podcast is very simply to help people start, lead and scale a location independent business, which gives them the freedom to work from anywhere in the world. Now, not everybody that listens to this is going to travel full time, is going to work from anywhere in the world. But for those of you that are, or want to do more traveling, would it be beneficial if I ended the podcast with a travel update slash tip? Travel tip, I hate hacks, but travel tip, travel hack, if that would be of interest to you, let me know. If I hear from nobody, I’m probably going to stop doing them, because I’m trying to take my own medicine, I want to adapt. I’m constantly trying to tweak the flow of the podcast to make it better. If you’ve been listening for a long time, you know for the last three or four episodes I start off with an outline, hey, here are the two things, the three things, the four things we’re going to talk about today, boom, boom, boom, and then I get moving. Somebody gave me some feedback that it would be helpful to have kind of an overview real quick at the top. So there you go. I really do value the feedback and would love to hear from you.
Well, my friend, thank you so much again for listening. I look forward to reading your reviews, your comments, your emails. And I really appreciate the fact that you stayed with me on this episode. Until next time, chase the big dream, lead with courage, and safe travels.
